Subject	Re: Re: Note to self: You are dead wrong on the law
Posted by	Rule12b on July 20, 2005 at 1:23 PM
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In Reply To	Re: Note to self: Libel isn't so if it's true.... :) posted by ZNutty1 on July 20, 2005 at 12:28 PM
Message	Nice try. The burden of proof rests with the Plaintiff. Speedfreak must prove that the statments made by the customer were false (and the customer knew them to be), intentionally pubished to a third party, and caused quantifiable injury to 'Freak Truth is a complete defense. ZNutty is totally off base here. Good luck winning this one. I used to knock defamation plaintiffs out of court like Bonds did baseballs in Candlestick. . . 1991 Aztec Red TT bought new in '91 Way back then, added JWT chip, ignition advance, Pop charger, Stainless 3pc Borla cat back; 17 in. OZ wheels Sold 1994, 81,000 miles later, still on orig clutch; what a car 1991 Charcoal Gray TT purchased 06/05; for details, see Aspendogg, he built the one of a kind I'm proud to call my own. When I find a way to improve on it, I'll let everyone know.
Follow Ups	Further Contact From David Waters AKA SpeedFreak Chicago - DragonSi 08:44:59 07/20/05 see the reason its slander is because the facts are not true - SPEED FREAK 09:39:36 07/20/05 he never paid? - atl300zxtt 09:42:13 07/20/05 I did pay, i paid about 40 min later after driving him to my - DragonSi 17:45:02 07/20/05 Regardless of any circumstance... - Greg (Dallas) 09:44:04 07/20/05 HUGE ditto. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 09:51:12 07/20/05 Agreed. (n/m) - Kez43 09:58:06 07/20/05 look greg - SPEED FREAK 09:58:24 07/20/05 Irrelevant. - Greg (Dallas) 10:24:49 07/20/05 When dealing with 5 year olds you may have to act like one - SPEED FREAK 10:29:01 07/20/05 I say more like 3-4 years old. "I'll act anyway I want" (n/m) - ChrisZNA (Sacto, CA) 11:01:26 07/20/05 That's right I will conduct myself in anyway I see fit - SPEED FREAK 11:15:01 07/20/05 as you should - Zrevolver 11:24:51 07/20/05 lets get this straight. OJ was on trial for murder - SPEED FREAK 11:40:04 07/20/05 spoiled? why do you say spoiled? (n/m) - BondzTT 11:45:34 07/20/05 read the post hotspur, the analogy was concerning - Zrevolver 11:54:36 07/20/05 you could of killey my car, my radiator was bone dry - DragonSi 17:51:19 07/20/05 .. a man can be held accountable ..a child can not (n/m) - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 18:52:46 07/20/05 Pissed or not, you need to be a professional - mattztt 10:29:04 07/20/05 First rule of business - ZBlacktt 12:06:56 07/20/05 so what do you do when you abide by these rules - SPEED FREAK 12:15:10 07/20/05 You have rights as well. - ZBlacktt 12:22:15 07/20/05 put my engine backtogether? my t-belt!?!?!? when was this - DragonSi 17:56:10 07/20/05 Let us know if you need help filling out bankruptcy forms... - GiZmo 15:56:53 07/20/05 lies about you? I did it 5 months after because - DragonSi 17:47:33 07/20/05 You guys should fight to the death over this? I can ref. (n/m) - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 09:44:15 07/20/05 Just an odd thought, if they are fighting to the death..... - RAGTPZ(ragtpz.com) 09:55:12 07/20/05 You need a ref for all the cheap shots that a crowd doesn't - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 10:19:14 07/20/05 the Dreaded Texas Chili Bowl?????? (n/m) - zzman (nashville) 10:40:23 07/20/05 lol! 2nd. (n/m) - RAGTPZ(ragtpz.com) 10:48:59 07/20/05 But what crowd doesn't want to see all that??? (n/m) - TT XTZ 12:00:00 07/20/05 we pay extra for that here in Texas... (n/m) - LordZ 13:15:17 07/20/05 or... there is always the midgets... - fantomZ(OH) 11:53:47 07/20/05 hmm.. - MarkA(NoVA) 09:45:14 07/20/05 I couldn't care less about any Z customers. - SPEED FREAK 10:02:39 07/20/05 noted (n/m) - Guapo 10:07:07 07/20/05 ur an idiot. (n/m) - Junxster (NoVA) 10:09:17 07/20/05 Why are you on this forum? (n/m) - JMoore010 10:09:38 07/20/05 because for years i really did love the z - SPEED FREAK 10:16:21 07/20/05 supra owners are generally idiots. - genic 10:18:07 07/20/05 You've met me? Didn't know that. I also didn't - JMoore010 10:39:07 07/20/05 for some reason I don't need to meet you to know - SPEED FREAK 10:56:52 07/20/05 Actually I have a tt, I just haven't changed my profile. - JMoore010 11:07:17 07/20/05 "NAs are gay" How old are you? 16? (n/m) - atl300zxtt 11:41:01 07/20/05 you sir are a terd sandwich! leave the forum! - FCV94TTZ 12:28:25 07/20/05 yep (n/m) - genic 11:13:17 07/20/05 lol what a bold statement - mousersix (San Antonio) 10:10:52 07/20/05 well put, lol (n/m) - NC_Z 10:57:55 07/20/05 You didn't have to go 'there' did you? - zcar4me 10:11:40 07/20/05 lol, good one (n/m) - Schoch(NC) 10:13:12 07/20/05 let me restate - SPEED FREAK 10:14:07 07/20/05 ok, whats your point? - genic 10:16:32 07/20/05 yes father - SPEED FREAK 10:19:49 07/20/05 street legal means it passes inspection..PERIOD - genic 10:23:25 07/20/05 and i quote - genic 10:25:22 07/20/05 Wow, he has a shitty attitude AND he's a thief. - mattztt 10:33:52 07/20/05 tell me, how am I a thief? (n/m) - SPEED FREAK 10:36:01 07/20/05 Did you pay the core charge or return the cores? (n/m) - mattztt 10:45:52 07/20/05 That's what I've ALWAYS known too, at least for the past 8 - Scotts94z32 10:37:13 07/20/05 ok think about your statement - SPEED FREAK 10:42:13 07/20/05 just give COZ the money and stop whining, thank you. - BondzTT 10:45:56 07/20/05 Go Genic go go genic go genic!!! - suprakillinz 11:32:46 07/20/05 well thank god there is more important things in life than - Zrevolver 15:27:58 07/20/05 Don't worry, no one on this board frequents other boards - Joe(NoVA) 10:19:29 07/20/05 LOL, sweeet (n/m) - BondzTT 10:40:27 07/20/05 I'm posting it on supraforums now:) (n/m) - suprakillinz 11:34:21 07/20/05 Do us a favor and stay there. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 11:53:59 07/20/05 its a good thing you wont work on Z's... *link* - genic 10:21:28 07/20/05 it also seems you have a nice attitude towards - genic 10:30:40 07/20/05 Nice way to run a business (n/m) - mickleson(oh) 10:24:36 07/20/05 wow it must suck to have a huge ego and be stupid at the - Nazgul 10:25:19 07/20/05 lol! (n/m) - mattztt 10:40:04 07/20/05 I heard ignorance was bliss (n/m) - Zrevolver 15:29:28 07/20/05 Based on your attitude, I'm sure the whole Z community - Greg (Dallas) 10:29:00 07/20/05 the whole Z community is filled with whining babies - SPEED FREAK 10:50:48 07/20/05 You are just ignorant. DIAF. (n/m) - manstretch (NC) 11:30:45 07/20/05 die in a fire? (n/m) - dogpile 21:12:10 07/20/05 *yawn* (n/m) - mattztt 11:43:24 07/20/05 Re: the whole Z community is filled with whining babies - ZNutty1 12:03:12 07/20/05 Thanks for the support. - SPEED FREAK 12:10:07 07/20/05 It baffles me that someone whose fiancee is a paralegal - Joe(NoVA) 12:13:33 07/20/05 DEFINITELY agreed (n/m) - tip 13:31:08 07/20/05 "advising me everystep" ha! - mattztt 12:24:05 07/20/05 Th law offices of Howard, Fine, and Howard would be - Doctor Z 12:43:54 07/20/05 feel free to have your lawyers give me a call man - DragonSi 18:25:43 07/20/05 he said "I couldn't care less about any Z customers" in - Nazgul 12:26:21 07/20/05 DOH!! (n/m) - Zrevolver 15:31:25 07/20/05 I totally understand where you are coming from - DragonSi 18:02:44 07/20/05 Scalpel...quickly nurse....we need to remove this cancer - BigTDogg (MA) 12:22:53 07/20/05 most of the z owners on this forum dont need help from their - mousersix (San Antonio) 14:11:49 07/20/05 You sir, are an idiot. (n/m) - WickedZX (NoVA) 10:32:19 07/20/05 +2 (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 10:34:56 07/20/05 moral of the story - aliaZ 11:19:50 07/20/05 I'm 30 not a kid and I'm changing my business - SPEED FREAK 11:55:26 07/20/05 "I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm not doing it anymore" - manstretch (NC) 12:14:46 07/20/05 "I'm much smarter than you think." - mattztt 12:39:56 07/20/05 LOL good luck in life buddy - mousersix (San Antonio) 14:12:43 07/20/05 k. (n/m) - MarkA(NoVA) 11:48:04 07/20/05 Has anyone looked at his website? What a joke... - manstretch (NC) 11:53:34 07/20/05 Re: Has anyone looked at his website? What a joke... - ussendeav 18:44:24 07/20/05 Please just stop, lol - ZBlacktt 12:16:50 07/20/05 Well Since you Want to Be an Azz. you lost all hope of my - Zski (The Forgotten Z) 12:55:52 07/20/05 ::sigh:: (n/m) - Kez43 13:05:31 07/20/05 LOL - you just lost a potential customer here. (n/m) - tip 13:18:16 07/20/05 Sit on your hands - DrChoda 13:26:08 07/20/05 David... who doesn't have that video, everyone in chicago - DragonSi 17:58:30 07/20/05 SPEED FREAK is a COCK GUZZLING QUEER!! (n/m) - RhinoChaser 04:16:38 07/21/05 Re: hmm.. - ZNutty1 12:07:52 07/20/05 so are u speed freak or a buddy of his? (n/m) - tip 13:32:41 07/20/05 tip this! - ZNutty1 13:53:02 07/20/05 my bad, kurtis. (n/m) - tip 14:09:23 07/20/05 shhh, its quiet time now (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 14:14:35 07/20/05 This stuff makes the Z1 vs. Ash posts actually look good. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 09:49:47 07/20/05 No it doesn't. - Kenny 10:18:57 07/20/05 Hey thats sounds interesting tell us more. LOL - SPEED FREAK 10:24:52 07/20/05 That doesn't make you less of a jackass. (n/m) - Kenny 10:30:09 07/20/05 Yes it does. Z1 vs. Ash posts are made in a semi literate - ENVYMYZ 10:34:49 07/20/05 So it's okay to piss in someone's car if you spell well? - Kenny 10:48:07 07/20/05 I think he's referring about the way it's presented to us - ZEngineer 10:51:32 07/20/05 You better stop with the common sense observations George, - ENVYMYZ 10:58:00 07/20/05 Please stop frothing at the mouth. - Kenny 11:31:10 07/20/05 Don't feel bad because it is, just try harder next time. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 11:51:16 07/20/05 lol (n/m) - Kenny 12:49:47 07/20/05 Yeah. - Kenny 11:24:03 07/20/05 your forgetting the dookie in the hiper exhuast also (n/m) - suprakillinz 11:40:33 07/20/05 Who's car got pissed in? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:16:15 07/20/05 Ash's. (n/m) - Kenny 12:49:18 07/20/05 LOL cause its not my car. But that is not cool at all. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:09:49 07/20/05 choked and a mental facility? - UnrulyZ 18:57:14 07/20/05 Very professional. (n/m) - Jason(MD) 10:02:25 07/20/05 i see someone took the Z1 school of business ethics (n/m) - genic 10:14:43 07/20/05 ROFL. Okay, I have been entertained today. kthxbye (n/m) - spotz 11:03:50 07/20/05 I'm glad I could add a little zest to your life.:-) (n/m) - SPEED FREAK 11:06:41 07/20/05 Libel, not slander. Have fun wasting time & $ with lawyers (n/m) - NC_Z 11:04:47 07/20/05 after reading this exchange - Zrevolver 11:18:00 07/20/05 do you own a business? - SPEED FREAK 11:28:57 07/20/05 So, you've talked to every Z shop owner and this is their - manstretch (NC) 11:35:54 07/20/05 yes I do, in fact you could use one of my products - Zrevolver 11:38:18 07/20/05 why would you want to cure swolen breasts:) (n/m) - suprakillinz 11:43:30 07/20/05 further research is needed to preserve that symptom - Zrevolver 11:59:11 07/20/05 lol (n/m) - NC_Z 11:45:59 07/20/05 Re: SPEED FREAK, pls contact me. - ZNutty1 12:12:19 07/20/05 Didnt he lose himself business when he said he was no longer - Schoch(NC) 12:34:23 07/20/05 Re: Didnt he lose himself business when he said he was no longer - ZNutty1 12:42:04 07/20/05 *transparent* how come this SN and speedfreak never - Nazgul 12:49:28 07/20/05 agreed. - tip 13:26:30 07/20/05 Re: agreed. - ZNutty1 13:49:34 07/20/05 look at tip's post, then look at yours - mousersix (San Antonio) 15:19:41 07/20/05 think before you post next time - mousersix (San Antonio) 14:22:48 07/20/05 It's GENIUS, dumbass. LOL!! (n/m) - ZNutty1 14:52:13 07/20/05 thanks, speed freak (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 15:17:27 07/20/05 Re: Re: Didnt he lose himself business when he said he was n - tip 15:16:28 07/20/05 complain? calling to check in on progress in complaining? - DragonSi 18:06:26 07/20/05 Wow...there goes your business. - brahmabull (NoVA) 11:27:42 07/20/05 Ya there it goes, I can see it leaving now, bye bye. - SPEED FREAK 11:33:29 07/20/05 God you are stupid. (n/m) - manstretch (NC) 11:40:42 07/20/05 "Used car dealer" better fits your character - mattztt 11:47:33 07/20/05 Wow, you gave up your business because of tt.net? - Joe(NoVA) 12:15:39 07/20/05 No I already came to the conclusion that I don't want - SPEED FREAK 12:30:29 07/20/05 Good. - Joe(NoVA) 13:06:34 07/20/05 im glad youre not going to put anyone else in - mousersix (San Antonio) 13:52:46 07/20/05 You think you won't have "ahole" customers as a car dealer? - Z U N L 22:23:50 07/20/05 the deal originally was to trade a motor for the service - DragonSi 17:49:35 07/20/05 working for you? you told me urself you called him for help - DragonSi 17:53:13 07/20/05 i feel your pain. i had a similar experience recently with - resorb (NJ) 10:06:32 07/20/05 The thing is that had he had a problem with my service - SPEED FREAK 10:10:29 07/20/05 just like you should have sent the core charge - genic 10:26:29 07/20/05 had I known I would have. - SPEED FREAK 10:37:29 07/20/05 clearly stated on his site...it was known. period. (n/m) - genic 11:12:50 07/20/05 I didn't go to the site. I've known Coz for over 10 years - SPEED FREAK 11:21:39 07/20/05 As someone in the automotive industry, you should understand - Guapo 11:23:47 07/20/05 Let me get this right. - mattztt 11:25:55 07/20/05 Really why should I - SPEED FREAK 11:46:09 07/20/05 Not arguing the "why should I" part - mattztt 12:17:39 07/20/05 i would have but I was in college the NEXT day - DragonSi 18:09:16 07/20/05 I see I'm a little late on this, but I signed it so I could - CRAZZEPETE. 11:29:51 07/20/05 Its amazing isn't it - SPEED FREAK 12:03:21 07/20/05 Please re-read Greg's post above... Most people here are - manstretch (NC) 12:18:38 07/20/05 Just so you all know what really took place - SPEED FREAK 12:22:19 07/20/05 So you got paid? (n/m) - mickleson(oh) 12:29:13 07/20/05 Yeah, ZNutty1(SPEED FREAK's alias) he did get paid! - FCV94TTZ 13:49:21 07/20/05 **** READ this Speed Freak **** - Zski (The Forgotten Z) 16:33:28 07/20/05 dude you really are as dumb as you look - DragonSi 18:12:38 07/20/05 Note to self: Libel isn't so if it's true.... :) - Zfreak(Dallas) 12:23:55 07/20/05 Re: Note to self: Libel isn't so if it's true.... :) - ZNutty1 12:28:24 07/20/05 hmm... joined today? writes in caps? only one defending? - Nazgul 12:31:50 07/20/05 Re: hmm... joined today? writes in caps? only one defending? - ZNutty1 12:36:14 07/20/05 right, thats why only one is logged on at a time (n/m) - Nazgul 12:50:40 07/20/05 oh, and your email address is fake (n/m) - Nazgul 13:22:42 07/20/05 let me get this straight, you defend him in all apsects on - LordZ 12:57:50 07/20/05 Speed Freak's demeanor caused him to lose business. (n/m) - manstretch (NC) 12:32:23 07/20/05 2nd, we never questioned his abilities, we questioned his - atl300zxtt 12:35:36 07/20/05 yep (n/m) - mickleson(oh) 12:38:10 07/20/05 Re: 2nd, we never questioned his abilities, we questioned his - ZNutty1 12:40:31 07/20/05 Stupid Move, my leather-cushioned ass - mattztt 12:46:22 07/20/05 We didn't have to question anything - mickleson(oh) 12:47:17 07/20/05 exactly, we never questioned it, he demonstrated it for us (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 12:50:39 07/20/05 If all people's questions were removed and all that was left - TT XTZ 12:57:47 07/20/05 Re: Re: Note to self: You are dead wrong on the law - Rule12b 13:23:34 07/20/05 Nice try speed freak, if you have to go to the length - Zrevolver 15:21:50 07/20/05 trust me you are defending the wrong guy man - DragonSi 18:15:49 07/20/05 This thread makes me think of a bunch of people doing this: - NC_Z 12:50:17 07/20/05 ya, they just don't seem to get it...sad really, ah well - CRAZZEPETE. 12:58:02 07/20/05 lol (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 13:53:42 07/20/05 Haha..man, thats funny! (n/m) - WAGGZ 14:41:13 07/20/05 LOL! (n/m) - Dustin 15:05:15 07/20/05 hahaha, thats awesome. (n/m) - rufflez 15:06:08 07/20/05 *crying* (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 15:14:45 07/20/05 LOL, no that's me using MSExcel at work (n/m) - Zrevolver 16:22:35 07/20/05 meh - aliaZ 22:32:07 07/20/05 Re: Further Contact From David Waters AKA SpeedFreak Chicago - ZNutty1 12:58:17 07/20/05 that may be true, but...again, the way he responded - CRAZZEPETE. 13:00:12 07/20/05 Re: that may be true, but...again, the way he responded - ZNutty1 13:10:32 07/20/05 why are you here again? Why don't you join 300zxclub.com - rufflez 15:07:42 07/20/05 HUGE 2nd (n/m) - GiZmo 17:23:06 07/20/05 True. but David should get back on the prozac - LordZ 13:11:49 07/20/05 Re: True. but David should get back on the prozac - ZNutty1 13:15:03 07/20/05 ok fair enough Nut... - LordZ 13:19:22 07/20/05 Re: Re: True. but David should get back on the prozac - Nukez 18:16:26 07/20/05 yea i used the name that was in the e-mail was that wrong? (n/m) - DragonSi 18:28:01 07/20/05 what are you talking about??? - DragonSi 18:19:22 07/20/05 Wow... I'm speechless (n/m) - Moxie 13:58:42 07/20/05 I think DragonSi started a Holy War. LOL.. (n/m) - ChrisZNA (Sacto, CA) 14:33:31 07/20/05 Speed Freak, you lost... just leave... (n/m) - 91Z32TT 14:46:06 07/20/05 Last post: SPEED FREAK 13:35:31 07/20/05 (15) - TT XTZ 15:16:03 07/20/05 *sob* Cant we all just get along? (n/m) - WAGGZ 14:47:22 07/20/05 No!!!!! Don't VTD this post, it's a classic and TZR! (n/m) - zgene4 14:51:50 07/20/05 lol!! VFAQ!! (n/m) - Zrevolver 15:05:32 07/20/05 Re: lol!! VFAQ!! - 2eZee 17:42:01 07/20/05 Somebody give this man a medal! - ENVYMYZ 15:23:47 07/20/05 Re: Somebody give this man a medal! - ybnormal70 15:59:36 07/20/05 Re: Re: Somebody give this man a medal! - ussendeav 20:14:46 07/20/05
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